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G'day Stennie,

I've undone some of the redirects you've put in place from the category pages. Categories are one of those incredible useful but oft mistunderstood features of Mediawiki.

Categories allow for similar pages (or even similar categories) to be grouped together in a meaningful way. I've found their primary functionality lies in users being able to ask what's related questions, and for bots and other information agents to have a starting point for finding pages that lie within their specified domain. In short, they're most commonly used as an indexing mechanism.

Having a redirect on a category page blocks the indexing functionality, so I've undone these edits when I've found them. I think that the categories definitely should have a link to the main page, but not as a redirect.

If you want to provide navigation between related topics (eg, all Sydney.PM pages), then using a template is usually more flexible, more powerful, and more visually appealing. One example from Wikipedia is the Wikipedia:Template:Team_Sport template, and you can follow the links to see how it's used. Templates can also contain category information, so adding a template also adds a page to a particular category. If you'd like a hand in creating such a navigation template, do let me know and I'll be very happy to assist.

All the very best,

--PJF (talk) 09:44, 7 Jan 2006 (EST)

Syd.PM navigation

G'day Stennie,

I've noticed you've removed the Sydney.PM navigation template from the Sydney Perl Mongers page, but not the sub-pages. I'm glad you left it on the sub-pages, because otherwise they lack a way an obvious way to return to the main page.

However I'm a little confused about your objection to the navigation on the main page. I certainly find it a much easier way of finding my way around the pages, as some pages (such as particular meeting write-ups) take some looking to find. If the look of the navigation is the problem, then that's easy to fix by modifying the style sheet that controls it.

I'd encourage you use the the relevant talk pages (either on Sydney.pm or the template itself) to raise anything you feel is particularly good or bad.

On a different note, I think the new Perl applications page looks great, and I'm particularly glad to have contributions that have a better colour sense than my own.  ;)

All the best,

--PJF (talk) 01:15, 14 January 2006 (EST)

PJF: the navigation didn't work for several reasons:

- on the main page, those links are already present
- the link to the 3 meeting writeups in 2005 made it look like those were the only meetings
- "my eyes!!" .. i think the green for the navigation style is too bright (particularly with other images on the page .. not as bad on the text-only meeting pages

.. i removed the meeting writeup links from the template and sorted in year desc (newest info at the top for nav) ; will highlight "meeting writeups" on the 2005 page instead.

Stennie 03:38, 14 January 2006 (EST)

Green is a lovely colour. Especially if you're colour blind, like me. --PJF (talk) 13:18, 21 June 2006 (EST)


Thanks for the work on tarting up the pages about Linux installation. Hugely better

Alec [[User_talk:Alecclews|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]


As CODA has no support for Perl shouldn't it go under text editors, or even be removed as it's designed for web developers?

Alec [[User_talk:Alecclews|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 08:56, 24 June 2008 (EST)

What the hell?

Am I not permitted to express an opinion? I like MediaWiki. I don't think SocialText is a good choice. What on earth did you revert my comment for? 11:11, 17 August 2008 (EST)